 |  The Western Experience, 8/e Mortimer Chambers,
University of California - Los Angeles Barbara Hanawalt,
Ohio State University Theodore Rabb,
Princeton University Isser Woloch,
Columbia University Raymond Grew,
University of Michigan - Ann Arbor
Classical and Hellenistic Greece
Guide To Documents- Oedipus' Self-Mutilation
- Thucydides: The Melian Dialogue
In 416 b.c., the Athenians mercilessly inform the people of the small island of Melos that they must join the Athenian empire. Thucydides presents the cold logic of their demand.
Athenians: We will use no fine phrases saying, for example, that we have a right to our empire because we defeated the Persians, or that we have come against you now because of the injuries you have done us. And we ask you not to imagine that you will influence us by saying that you have never done us any harm. You know as well as we do that the strong do what they have the power to do and the weak accept what they have to accept.
Melians: So you would not agree to our being neutral, friends instead of enemies, but allies of neither side?
Athenians: No, because it is not so much your hostility that injures us; rather, if we were on friendly terms with you, our subjects would regard that as a sign of weakness in us, whereas your hatred is evidence of our power.
Melians: We trust that the gods will give us fortune as good as yours, because we are standing for what is right against what is wrong.
Athenians: Our opinion of the gods and our knowledge of men lead us to conclude that it is a general and necessary law of nature to rule wherever one can. This is not a law that we made ourselves, nor were we the first to act upon it when it was made. We found it already in existence, and we shall leave it to exist forever. We are merely acting in accordance with it, and we know that you or anybody else with the same power as ours would be acting in precisely the same way.
From Rex Warner (trans.), Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War, Penguin Classics, 1954, 1980, pp. 89 105 abridged. - Socrates Is Sentenced to Death
- The Training of a Wife
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